I'm sorry but this gallery has got to be the biggest boy-art heaven on chelsea...can't believe the hipster-boy roster and the fact that most work really looks alike...wonder how B will survive once the tastes change. She is clearly smart but I find it amazing how the program has been run on a short-attention-span sort of art . As Jarvis once said "...Help the aged, on day you'll be older too..."
i agree the hipster boy thing is so tedious, oh wow, boys being "bad", aaron young you have got to be kidding me, these are not good artists. i did notice the all boy thing a while ago and commented on it to someone they just shrug, this is the artworld we live in. she should be ashamed at its superficiality.
The work DOES all look alike, like the same hip young white boy made it all, does this stuff even sell? really now does it? i mean they couldnt find one woman beside hope atherton to show? as an older artist i find it offensive when i go in there, like the wasted real estate feels so wrong.
LOL, is this the same person posting three times or did you all fall out of the same, bitter peapod? I am sure that Buren will revel in being called a bad boy. It cracks me up when a gallery with a particular curatorial perspective gets trashed for it. I guess that all galleries have to mount an "appropriate range" of artists to make sure that all are included. Lets just mix it all in until we get gray shall we? As to the gender issue, I guess that even a female dealer needs to take care to not show too many men.
Last comment said it all. The tone of condescending cleverness so emblematic of why it all remains same old, same old. Thank you for the racist barbs:
"I guess that all galleries have to mount an "appropriate range" of artists to make sure that all are included. Lets just mix it all in until we get gray shall we? " Wow, it's amazing how it all comes out like that, pure pearls of prejudice. I for one meant diversity in the work, but I am glad you are able to expand the concept further.
Errr, as to the comment on "curatorial" perspective: "It cracks me up when a gallery with a particular curatorial perspective gets trashed for it. " we are saying there isn't a curatorial perspective, but a "look". Like a fashion look book.
The whole notion of "bitter" is what prevents people from speaking up. Get real - the boom is over.
Thank you above. Why is it that when someone points out sexism or racism or ageism we are called bitter. And yes there is no other word that will shut an artist up more than to be called bitter. Thank you again.
In keeping with the spirit of this site, please state PROVEN cases of galleries who have recently committed ageism, sexism or racism. Otherwise, it really does just come off as a second-rate artist's bitterness at not having "made it".
Out of 19 artists only ONE woman? This by a gallery run by a woman? Absolutely unacceptable. As a collector I will not support such nonsense. Its not like there are no amazing female artists out there. Shame on Bortolami!
her space, jointly owned by adam linderman (her ex-partner's husband) is up for sale. Look for her to move as soon as they get an offer on the building.
"Out of 19 artists only ONE woman? This by a gallery run by a woman? Absolutely unacceptable. As a collector I will not support such nonsense. Its not like there are no amazing female artists out there. Shame on Bortolami!"
Well "Collector", you are certainly indignant and ridiculous....to presume that you know the inner workings of the gallery. Did it ever occur to you that offers were extended to multiple female artists, but were turned down?
Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to stop your shopping at Bortolami until you get your facts straight?
Then again, I seriously doubt you ever bought anything at our gallery.
As a woman and an artist who shows with a gallery that represents very few women artists, I can really understand the complexity of this problem. And I am sure offers have been extended to women artists and turned down. Just 19 times more frequently than with the dudes? I think not. I guess there is not any old boys or bad boys club or whatever boys club we can belong too. And for whatever reason, doors do not open in the art world as easily for women as men. I know some of the artists that show with Stefania and they all have great things to say. But more work needs to be done to seek out women artists, perhaps this gallery is most egregious in its non-representation of women, but they are not the only ones guilty of this. It's a systemic problem...
So, a dealer who extends herself to a group of talented artists with whom she feels a connection and is turned down should go back out and extend MORE offers, not based on esthetic kinship...but on GENDER????????? Listen to yourself, you're as evil as your imaginary enemies.
Face it sad sack, you're an outdated joke. Good thing we're about to turn the corner on a new decade.
The issue of women artists receiving fair attention and representation is problematic, but I don't think that it makes sense for us to count up the percentage of women on each gallery's roster and then condemn them if it falls below a threshold.
Who a gallery represents depends on the vision of the program and the right chemistry between artist and dealer. To flush the vision of the program for a gender quota does not make sense to me. It does neither the artist or dealer any good. Also, where does the quota assessment stop? Have you counted up the number of artists of color in gallery rosters lately? How about the number of openly gay artists?
As a collector who has bought from and will continue to buy from this gallery, I admire the fact that Stefania has put her curatorial vision above any quota. I buy from Bortolami fro the work, and I buy from another gallery with a majority of women artists represented, also for the work.
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great space - and hiring sheri p from nada to run things is genius.
I'm sorry but this gallery has got to be the biggest boy-art heaven on chelsea...can't believe the hipster-boy roster and the fact that most work really looks alike...wonder how B will survive once the tastes change. She is clearly smart but I find it amazing how the program has been run on a short-attention-span sort of art . As Jarvis once said "...Help the aged, on day you'll be older too..."
i agree the hipster boy thing is so tedious, oh wow, boys being "bad", aaron young you have got to be kidding me, these are not good artists. i did notice the all boy thing a while ago and commented on it to someone they just shrug, this is the artworld we live in. she should be ashamed at its superficiality.
The work DOES all look alike, like the same hip young white boy made it all, does this stuff even sell? really now does it? i mean they couldnt find one woman beside hope atherton to show? as an older artist i find it offensive when i go in there, like the wasted real estate feels so wrong.
LOL, is this the same person posting three times or did you all fall out of the same, bitter peapod? I am sure that Buren will revel in being called a bad boy. It cracks me up when a gallery with a particular curatorial perspective gets trashed for it. I guess that all galleries have to mount an "appropriate range" of artists to make sure that all are included. Lets just mix it all in until we get gray shall we? As to the gender issue, I guess that even a female dealer needs to take care to not show too many men.
Last comment said it all. The tone of condescending cleverness so emblematic of why it all remains same old, same old. Thank you for the racist barbs:
"I guess that all galleries have to mount an "appropriate range" of artists to make sure that all are included. Lets just mix it all in until we get gray shall we? " Wow, it's amazing how it all comes out like that, pure pearls of prejudice. I for one meant diversity in the work, but I am glad you are able to expand the concept further.
Errr, as to the comment on "curatorial" perspective: "It cracks me up when a gallery with a particular curatorial perspective gets trashed for it. "
we are saying there isn't a curatorial perspective, but a "look". Like a fashion look book.
The whole notion of "bitter" is what prevents people from speaking up. Get real - the boom is over.
Thank you above. Why is it that when someone points out sexism or racism or ageism we are called bitter. And yes there is no other word that will shut an artist up more than to be called bitter. Thank you again.
In keeping with the spirit of this site, please state PROVEN cases of galleries who have recently committed ageism, sexism or racism. Otherwise, it really does just come off as a second-rate artist's bitterness at not having "made it".
The gallery's website lists nineteen artists, only one of whom is a woman, which is why I've allowed the valid comments.
This site is less concerned with outside impressions of the program than with how represented artists are treated, and so far there are no complaints.
Out of 19 artists only ONE woman? This by a gallery run by a woman? Absolutely unacceptable. As a collector I will not support such nonsense. Its not like there are no amazing female artists out there. Shame on Bortolami!
her space, jointly owned by adam linderman (her ex-partner's husband) is up for sale. Look for her to move as soon as they get an offer on the building.
"Out of 19 artists only ONE woman? This by a gallery run by a woman? Absolutely unacceptable. As a collector I will not support such nonsense. Its not like there are no amazing female artists out there. Shame on Bortolami!"
Well "Collector", you are certainly indignant and ridiculous....to presume that you know the inner workings of the gallery. Did it ever occur to you that offers were extended to multiple female artists, but were turned down?
Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to stop your shopping at Bortolami until you get your facts straight?
Then again, I seriously doubt you ever bought anything at our gallery.
As a woman and an artist who shows with a gallery that represents very few women artists, I can really understand the complexity of this problem.
And I am sure offers have been extended to women artists and turned down. Just 19 times more frequently than with the dudes? I think not. I guess there is not any old boys or bad boys club or whatever boys club we can belong too. And for whatever reason, doors do not open in the art world as easily for women as men.
I know some of the artists that show with Stefania and they all have great things to say. But more work needs to be done to seek out women artists, perhaps this gallery is most egregious in its non-representation of women, but they are not the only ones guilty of this. It's a systemic problem...
You have got to be kidding me with this.
So, a dealer who extends herself to a group of talented artists with whom she feels a connection and is turned down should go back out and extend MORE offers, not based on esthetic kinship...but on GENDER????????? Listen to yourself, you're as evil as your imaginary enemies.
Face it sad sack, you're an outdated joke. Good thing we're about to turn the corner on a new decade.
The issue of women artists receiving fair attention and representation is problematic, but I don't think that it makes sense for us to count up the percentage of women on each gallery's roster and then condemn them if it falls below a threshold.
Who a gallery represents depends on the vision of the program and the right chemistry between artist and dealer. To flush the vision of the program for a gender quota does not make sense to me. It does neither the artist or dealer any good. Also, where does the quota assessment stop? Have you counted up the number of artists of color in gallery rosters lately? How about the number of openly gay artists?
As a collector who has bought from and will continue to buy from this gallery, I admire the fact that Stefania has put her curatorial vision above any quota. I buy from Bortolami fro the work, and I buy from another gallery with a majority of women artists represented, also for the work.
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1 what? female artists currently listed? i count zero now.
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